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Draco Hunt · Jan 04, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

/signed

Atleast the rewards after unlocking with balth faction should be more PvP related or as some others already said maybe gold. But the general idea is a good one.

NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

I don't have all unlocked yet (I'm near) I know people with ALL unlocked, play PvP is in some way less interesting when you win B.Factions for nothing. I remember in my beginning days when I played for B.Factions only (no titles at all in that time) Now I play for titles (and fun) and B.Factions comes alone, I normally have the skills I need already unlocked (and all weapons/armors mods) so ... a new way for spend that faction and DON'T miserably loss it, will be appreciated.

Note: Remember some people actually paid real money for unlock skills in their accounts, so ... that people are making faction for nothing too? This game is old, a lot of people have all unlocked, something must be done about. Thank you.

Teger · Jan 05, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

Just add a tab in all Balthazar Priests, with exchange 1 Faction for 1 Gold (just convert Faction in gold) That way people will go and play PvP instead of farming all day.

Imagine getting gold everytime you kill one in PvP, hahaha! Why not?

as nice as that would be....it just feels unballenced...especially for those people who pretty much ONLY do TA/RA/HA/GvG all day...well...it would just be a little too much if you know what I mean...

FelixCarter · Jan 05, 2007, 09:36 AM // 09:36

I never use Faction... At all...

Everything I've unlocked, I've unlocked through PvE play. However, this idea intrigues me.

It would actually give me a use for all that Faction I have never used...

/Signed if rewards are small.

The biggest thing I'd ever expect to get from trading Faction would be a new (and permanent) hat or something that is like an event item.

Not A Fifty Five · Jan 05, 2007, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by Teger

as nice as that would be....it just feels unballenced...especially for those people who pretty much ONLY do TA/RA/HA/GvG all day...well...it would just be a little too much if you know what I mean...

1 gold for one faction isn't that much really. Solo farming pawns that.

Well some people seem to be against it, since pve rewards are the only thing anyone can think of. One obviously can only get pve rewards or aesthetic rewards because unbalancing pve a tiny bit is fine, but the slightest imbalance of pvp has terrible consequences.

At the very least, and I don't think ANYONE can be against this, one should have the option to "burn" your faction. As in annihilate it's existence. A balthazar faction title would be very nice, but it's not possible without something like this.

Or, and it may be worth making a new thread, have the ability to donate balthazar faction for a contest! Like the country with a highest amount donated during that hour gives its country a +2 morale boost for HoH or something. Or whatever

NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Teger

as nice as that would be....it just feels unballenced...especially for those people who pretty much ONLY do TA/RA/HA/GvG all day...well...it would just be a little too much if you know what I mean...

TA/RA/HA/GvG all day? That people deserve that money, no? Why get gold from killing a monster and not when killing a player when normally is a lot harder kill the player. You already get gold for PvP in Factions campaign, you can exchange Kursick/Luxon faction for money, and I don't see unbalance, do you?

Crom The Pale · Jan 05, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Gold for pvp is just wrong and should never happen.

As I stated before converting faction into tittles would be acceptable and balanced.

As for the Kurzick/Luxon argument regarding gold as rewards, AB is more like pve than pvp and you can acrue 10000 points via quests in pve, so it has little or nothing similar to Balthazar faction.

NeHoMaR · Jan 05, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

Gold for pvp is just wrong and should never happen.

As I stated before converting faction into tittles would be acceptable and balanced.

As for the Kurzick/Luxon argument regarding gold as rewards, AB is more like pve than pvp and you can acrue 10000 points via quests in pve, so it has little or nothing similar to Balthazar faction.

I know people playing AB for the money ONLY, and believe me, that is NOT PvE, it's PvP. Every place in this game where you can kill players, are PvP. And if you see "acceptable" make money in AB, you must think the same about TA/RA/HA/GvG, why not? they could just implement randomly assign you to kursick or luxon in RA, and we will start making money in RA, unbalance? where?

FelixCarter · Jan 05, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Maybe 15k armor for PvP should be available for mass-quantities of Faction?

Maybe Faction could be traded in for booze and other event items?

There are multiple ways Faction can be burned... The community can come up with some great ideas that maybe ANet will implement.

Opeth · Jan 05, 2007, 08:15 PM // 20:15

i'm full unlocked and i would like to spent my faction away.

the rewards could be something like.....a title? like "friends of kuzicks/luxon" but for balthazar (with other name ofc). Yes just for the title, no inerent bonus or something similar...just the title, no benefict at all....this way you could keep wining your faction, keep spending and without huge rewards...

/signed

NeHoMaR · Jan 07, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Opeth

i'm full unlocked and i would like to spent my faction away.

the rewards could be something like.....a title? like "friends of kuzicks/luxon" but for balthazar (with other name ofc). Yes just for the title, no inerent bonus or something similar...just the title, no benefict at all....this way you could keep wining your faction, keep spending and without huge rewards...

/signed

Friend of Balthazar? I like the idea

But with Luxon/Kurzick you have an option for exchange for money and armor, so .... I want something like that with Balthazar Faction

EDIT: I don't agree the idea of having 15k armor in PvP characters; That armors are "special". They could instead add ALL not 15k armor to PvP armor selection (not related to Balthazar Faction indeed, just add it with a patch)

Crom The Pale · Jan 07, 2007, 03:07 PM // 15:07

The idea of pvp for gold makes as much sence to me as gaining Fame for pve play.

Saying that AB is the same as the other pvp is just ridiculas, its based on the pve concept of Kurzick vs Luxon and has rewards equal to the pve quest rewards for aquireing faction for either side.

Above and beyond all of that, pvp players do not need any gold since its of 0 use for pvp.

NeHoMaR · Jan 07, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

The idea of pvp for gold makes as much sence to me as gaining Fame for pve play.

Saying that AB is the same as the other pvp is just ridiculas, its based on the pve concept of Kurzick vs Luxon and has rewards equal to the pve quest rewards for aquireing faction for either side.

Above and beyond all of that, pvp players do not need any gold since its of 0 use for pvp.

Hey! Do you know gold items are dropped when winning Hall of Heroes?

Don't tell me that is PvE because I will cry

Not A Fifty Five · Jan 08, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

The idea of pvp for gold makes as much sence to me as gaining Fame for pve play.

Saying that AB is the same as the other pvp is just ridiculas, its based on the pve concept of Kurzick vs Luxon and has rewards equal to the pve quest rewards for aquireing faction for either side.

Above and beyond all of that, pvp players do not need any gold since its of 0 use for pvp.

Gold has 0 use for pvp? I take it you don't pvp much :P Unless you gvg or arena daily, you need like a million gold to unlock all the skills.

Rakeman · Jan 08, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Above 2 posts- QFT!

Not A Fifty Five · Jan 12, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

bump! (blablablabla)

Crom The Pale · Jan 12, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Ok explain to me how you need gold to unlock skills when this thread is about having to much faction???

Yes gold items are dropped for winning the Hall of Heros, and when you win it often enough in a row you unlock two pve areas...this is a flaw that needs to be fixed and is in no way related to what you wish to do with exess faction points.

I will repeat myself once more...

The ONLY acceptable use for excess faction is to convert it into titles in some reasonable ratio.

Shadow Kurd · Jan 12, 2007, 10:30 PM // 22:30

/signed this will definatly get ppl to PvP

Vinraith · Jan 12, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

/notsigned

PvE rewards for PvEing will negatively affect both.

Demoon · Jan 12, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

The idea I've seen among alot of top players is that they'd like something back like the Flame of Balthazar. It would take some amount of faction, 5-10k and turn it into a Flame. This way when a PvP preview event comes out, those that have been UAXed can use their full faction and the Flames of Balths they have accumulated to unlock more.

You can not exchange faction for armor because this and weapons skins are the only 2 remaining reasons to run a PvE character in PvP. Also money for Faction would more then likely destroy the PvP community, not that it hasn't already been killed off.